By Neal Stephenson
This book was recommended by my son Tj. His recommendation came with a general
commentary that within it comes a moral code that he can identify with. It is a classic sci-phi involving the cosmos
and numerous civilizations, where one alien civilization is in search of a
natural resource, lost on their own planet, but found on a new planet. Hence the over arching dilemma of the rule of
scarcity prevails. The setting of the
story takes place on what would be presumed as future Earth, Stephenson
eventually gives it a different name Arbre.
Laced through the book are definitions of words inclusive of an
epistemology that the reader must learn.
These definitions build on each other in order to construct Stephenson's
moral code that has no bias to our history.
However the effort is thinly
veiled rendering the effort as obviously taking his own stand on
philosophy. Which is oneness of
societies. None the less the reader
should be ware to learn the definitions as you go in order to get the most
entertainment value and philosophical moral message being conveyed by Neil
Stephenson. It would not be a sci-fi
without a moral message involving multiple civilizations.
In
one sentence: this book is about consciousness and cognition at brain, social
and cosmos level rendering our thoughts with semantic content over and above
the ones and the zeros, the black and the white that seem to define our
thinking at theoric level
This book is a tale of two philosophies coming together to save
themselves from destruction. One
magisterium is the Saecular Power. The
other is the Mathic World – in joining hands for sake of survival, thee two are
well - running the world? In shaping
this dichotomy there is a theme of multiple upheavals in the history of man,
that would amalgamate a set of rules for which peoples of certain Praxes and
Concents (Stephenson defined terms) would abide by. Generational learning that is somewhat
parallel to tradition, only with a mathematical line of reasoning. Stephenson
layers the civilizations first on earth and then about two thirds of the way
through the book he adds a new dimension; aliens from the cosmos. The prime characters hale from what is
defined as a math. Maths take on every
characteristic of a monastery, turning the common dichotomy of religion and
science upside down whereby the main
characters adopt the look and feel of a monk. The catch is monasteries and
these monks in particular are science oriented with everything being
mathematically explained. This explains
my son who holds a Masters In Quantative Analysis, and a love for the book. While Math Monks live a reclusive life,
seeing the outside world once every ten years, these main characters are
expelled, or really sent out on a mission to save their world. The reader has to read 250 pages of life in a
monastery to get to the next layer of intrigue, which is how well they survive
in the outside world with common civilization as their allies and at times secular
foes.
Si-Fi’s usually have a quest so Stephenson uses a quest over
the north pole to shape the alliance of Maths, and common folks. And then the
plot turns on a dime with the smashing of giant rod into the earth, killing who
up to then was the key protagonist and mentor to all those of the math. Orolo like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings is vanquished;
meanwhile his ‘math (philosophy)’ lives on in the minds of the ‘math
monks’. Now they in alliance with
Arbre’s outside civilization, the mystery of Orlo’s movements and mission
becomes real clear to the reader. Arbre has been invaded by an alien spaceship
hovering above. The key word in the
story is hovering and not orbiting, as that point gives the Arbrelings a
strategic advantage that makes no logical sense to a reader who does not appreciate
the finer points of the time & space part of earth science. A puzzle within
a puzzle. That person puzzles over this
fun fact only after finishing the last 300 pages of the book. The law of physics and time spins around
objects in motion.
So the strategy to foil the alien ship’s attack on Arbre
involves objects in motion, and the concept of space time. It would be rude of me to go in to detail but
suffice it to say that there is an incident that occurs in the planet saving
mission that at the closing of the book, has the reader searching back to those
critical pages for an explanation.
Entwined with this explanation, is the thread of Stephenson’s philosophy
and moral message. Alter realities are a
theme of this book and in fact the alter reality or parallel plane exists
through Jad in the end, where he lives and is a hero but in reality he
dies. It involves time, space, and Oneness
of the Universe and a Hylean Flow of consciousness through a Wick that
transcends cosmi. All are intriguing
subjects to me.
Consciousness: “All it needs to do is to perceive – to
reflect- the cosmos that it’s really in, as it really is.” This is the theme of my book of poems. And a
quote from a recently read book, How Yoga Works: “all things are themselves by themselves” for
you to awaken to. Oddly and still coincidentally here again vouches the
phrase. Seek and ye shall find” … in everyplace you
look …even if coincidentally.
My favorite metaphor: I am tormented, or tantalized, by the sense
that I’m almost in view of something that is at the limit of my
comprehension. I dream of being in the
sea, treading water, trying to see a beacon on shore. But the view is blocked by the crests of the
waves. Sometimes, when conditions are
perfect, I can pop up high enough to glimpse it. But then, before I can form any form
impression of what it is I’m seeing, I sink back down of my own weight, and get
slapped in the face by another wave.
Bibliography: I have many comments for which the bibliography note in conjunctions may invite you to respond
Page 40: [metaphor]
was like an ant of the wrong color
Page 52: [time] He
hadn’t seemed to have heard me. “If
there were another universe, altogether separate from outs- no causal linkages
whatsoever between Universe A and B – would time flow at the same rate between
them?
“Well it depends on how you measure time”
“it depends on what time is! I’d said. I had spent a few minutes going up various
avenues of explanation, only to find each of them a dead end.”
“Well,” I’d said finally, “I guess I have to invoke the
Steelyard. In the absence of a good
argument to the contrary, I have to choose the simplest answer. And the simplest answer is that time runs
independently in Universe A and Universe B.”
“Because they are separate causal domains.”
Orolo said” What if these two universes –each big and old
and as complicated as ours –were entirely separate, except for a single photon
that managed to travel somehow between them.
Would that be enough to wrench A’s time and B’s time into a perfect
lockstep for all of eternity?”
My comment: This hypothesis places each individual as the
causal factor of time.
Page 53: [time}“What
if you found a way to sever links to the world extramuros?”
“That is utterly ridiculous.
You are giving Incanter like powers to these people.”
“But if one could do it, then one’s math would become a
separate universe and its time would no longer be synchronized with the rest of
the world’s. Causal Domain Shear would
become possible.
Page 57:
[metaphor] like sparrows from a
belfry
Page 88: Orolo’s yarn
about a math that floated freely in time, surfing on cocurrents of Causal
Domain Shear, had really stirred my emotions, and so a few moments I let my
imagination run away
Page 101:
[metaphor] fact had been
released, like a bubble of swamp gas deep in dark water.
Page 111:
[philosophy] I was claiming I saw a meaning in it. But this meaning had no reality, outside my
mind.
Returning to the Periklyne he had proclaimed his doctrine
that all things we thought we knew were shadows of more perfect things in a
higher world.
This had become the essential doctrine of Protism. If Protas could be respected for saying so,
then what was wrong with me thinking that our Mynster, and this machine hall
were both shadows of some higher thing that existed elsewhere – a sacred of
which were both shadows, and that cast other shadows in such places as Bazian
arks and groves of ancient trees?”
Page 116: [metaphor]
I had feared that she and Cord were going to fall upon each other like two cats
in a pillowcase.
Page 123: We don’t
think the ITA are dirty in a sense of not washing. But their whole purpose is to work with
information that spreads in a promiscuous way.
Page 126: At the
Convoxes following the first and Second Sacks, “ I said. “You see, even after the end of the Praxis
Age, the concents obtained a huge amount of power by coupling processors that
had been invented by their syntactic facilities to other kinds of tools – in
one case, for making new matter, and for another for manipulating
sequences. This reminded people of the
Terrible Events and led to the First and Second Sacs. Our rules concerning ITA, and which praxes we
can and cant use, date from those times.
Page 129: “Literally
two thousand years ago, a Saunt put forth the idea tha- “ “ That every idea the
human mind could come up with, had already been come up with by that time. It is a very influential idea…”
Page 135: Shortly
before Rebirth, several maths took the unusual step of altering the Discipline
to sanction the Perelithian liaison..
Page 137: “Nothing is
more important than that you see and love beauty that is right in front of you,
or else you will have no defense against the ugliness that will hem you in and
come at you in so many ways.”
Page 139: “Beauty
pierces through like that ray through the clouds, “Orolo continued. “Your eye is drawn to where it touches
something that is capable of reflecting it
But your mind knows that the light does not originate from the mountains
and the towers. Your mind knows that
something is shining in from another world.
Don’t listen to those who say its in the eye of the beholder.”
Page 139: [metaphor]
like a butler counting his spoons
Page 151: Cnous drew
the conclusion that it was a mistake to worship physical idols such as the one
he had been building, for those were only crude effiges of actual gods that
lived in another realm, and we ought to woership those gods themselves, no
artifacts we made with our own hands.
“ Hylaea said that Cnous had actually been having an upsight
about geometry. What her sister Deat had
misinterpreted as a pyramid in heaven was actually a glimpse of an
isosceles triangle: not a crude and
inaccurate representation of one such as Conus drew on his tablet with a ruler
and a compass, but pure theorical object of which one could make absolute
statements. The triangles that we drew
and measured here in the physical world were all merely more or less faithful
representations of perfect triangles that existed in this higher world. We must stop confusing one with the other,
and lend our minds to the study of pure geometrical objects.
Comment: Whether
words, symbols, architectural expressions of nature or cosmos or thought: the
true expression of higher self/god is through nature itself.
Page 170: The only
shard that lodged in my memory was his concluding line” “If this all seems ambiguous, that’s because
it is; and if that troubles you, you’d hate it here but if it gives you a
feeling of relief, then you are in the right place and might consider staying.
Page 173: “But the
answer is well… geometry. It’s
pure. It doesn’t matter what you are
applying it to.”
And it turns out that the same is true for other kinds of
theorics besides geometry,” I said.
“Your can prove something. Later
the same thing might be proved in a totally different way; but you always end
up with the same answer.
These truths seem to come out of another world or plane of
existence. It’s hard not to believe that
this other world really exists in some sense – not just in our
imaginations! And we would like to go
there.
Page 173: I just
flashed on how weird the whole thing was – two of us both relating to this
image – this model – of another person’s body that was in his and in my mind,
but – Also seemingly in a third place,” I suggested, “a shared place
Pages 206,207, 208:
No nuance of sun, soil, or wind was too subtle for the library grape to
take into account. Nothing that the
cultivator did, or failed to do, went in detected or failed to have its
consequences in the flavor of the juice…The stuff was tremendous, like drinking
your favorite book.
Page 228: to go
Hundres (Derogatory slang) To lose one’s
mind, to become mentally unxound, to stray irredeemably from the path of
theoriescs. The expression can be traced
to the Third Centennial Apert, when the gates of several Hundreder maths opened
to reveal startling outcomes, eg: at Saunt Rambalf’s a mass suicide that had
taken place only moments earlier. …These and other mishaps prompted the
creation of te Inquisition and the institution of hierarchs in their modern forms,
including Wardens Regulant with power to inspect and impose disciplines in all
maths. THE DICTIONARY, the edition A. R. 3000.
Page 233: “once you
open the door to these hypotheticals that don’t have to make internal sense,
you quickly find yourself looking at arrange of possibilities that might as
well be infinitely numerous,” Jesry said>
“So the mind rejects them as being equally invalid, and doesn’t worry
about them.”
So it is an intrinsic feature of human consciousness – this
filtering ability.”
My comment: Godel, Escher, Bach; recursive analysis. How deep do you have to think to come up with
the same outcome? Which in this
instance, is ironic because the author takes many subjects to their depths and
is exactly why the book is worth reading.
Page 234: “There’s no
way to get from the point in Hemn space where we are now, to one that includes
pink nerve-gas-farting dragons, following any plausible action principle. Which
is really just a technical term for there being a coherent story joining one
moment to the next. If you simply throw
action principles out the window, you’re granting the world the freedom to
wander anywhere in Hemn space, to any outcome, without restrain. It becomes pretty meaningless
My comment: What the author is saying is that you are
a part of nature, but nature prevails
over the propensity for random creations
of reality.
Page 235: “but I
think you have a Steelyard problem,
Bringing in Hemn space and action principles seems like unnecessarily
heavyweight way of explaining the fact that the mind has an instinctive nose
for which outcomes are plausible enough to worry about.”
My comment: Mystics –v- Science. Ironically theorics is a discipline of
science.
Page 236: [metaphor]
And I don’t mean that in a bug under a microscope way
Page 237: That’s
right people have to feel that they are a part of some sustainable project.
Something that will go on without them.
It creates the feeling of stability.
My comment: Here is an argument for mystics, if feeling
(intuition) has no place in science.
Page 259: [metaphor] being worried about these things was a
little bit like attempting to see distant stars against the daytime sky.
Page 261: [metaphor] did create a negative association in
one’s mind that bobbed to the surface at awkward moments
Page 272: “Did Orolo
have an answer?”
“It think he did, I said., he was trying to explain it to me
at Apert. Look for things that have
beauty – it tells you that a ray is shining in from –well-“
“A true place? The
Hylean Theoric World
Page 307: Anyway
there was something about her physical form that matched her soul
Page 314: But as time
went by, and I thought about it harder, the real nature of the thing became
clear: I had made a mess inside someone
else’s soul at a moment when that soul had been open to me. Now it was closed.
Page 371: Still if a
group of religious fanatics had wanted to abduct a few carloads of avout, they
couldn’t have done a slicker job of it.
That’s why I snapped awake when I heard Freman Bell mention God
Until now He’s avoided it, which I could no to understand. If you sincerely believed in God, how could
you form one thought, speak one sentence, without mentioning Him? Instead of which Deolaters like Beller would
go on for hours without bringing God into the conversation at all. Maybe his God was remote from our doings. Or
more likely the presence of God was so obvious to hem that he felt no more need
to speak of it than I do to point out all the time, that I was breathing air.
Frustration was in Beller’s voice. Not angry or bitter. This was the gentle, genial frustration of an
uncle who can’t get something through a nephew’s head. We seemed so smart. Why didn’t we believe in God?
Page 372: We’re
observing the Sonic Discipline,” Arisbalt told him – happy and a bit relieved,
to’ve been given an opportunity to clear it up…..”It’s not the same thing as
believing in God. Though – hastily adds
– I can see why it looks that way to one who’s never been exposed to Sonic
thought.”
My comment: This
is where Stephenson brings science and religion together. Separate disciplines
thou the same pursuits of happiness and reality.
Page 373: so Lady
Baritoe was the only constant, She wrote books, bu, was careful to say, the
ideas in them can’t be attributed to any one person. Someone dubbed it Sonic thought and the name
stuck.
My comment: Sonic thought, Holy Spirit, collective
thought; call it what you want. It is
the energy of thought transcending through many media, paper, radio, sound,
sight, intuition etc… it is all One atom of energy.
Page 375: Well, that
‘more’ is by definition outside of space of time. And the Sconics demonstrated that we simply
cannot think in a useful was about anything that, in principle can’t be
experienced through our senses. And I
can already see from the look on your face that you don’t agree.”
I don’t Beller affirmed.
But that’s beside the point.
The point is that, after Sonics, the kinds of people who did theorics
ane metatheorics stopped talking about God and certain other topics such as
free will and what existed before the universe.
And that is what I mean by Sonic Discipline. By the time of the Reconstitution it had
become ingrained. It was incorporated
into our Discipline without much discussion, or even conscious awareness.”
“well, but with all the free time you’ve got – sitting in
your concents – couldn’t someone be troubled in four thousand years to be aware
of it? To discuss it?
“we have less free time than you can imagine,” Arisbalt said gently, “nit nevertheless, many
people have devoted much thought to the matter, and founded Orders devoted to
denying God, or believing in Him and
currents have surged back and forth in and among the maths. But none of it seems to have moved us away
from the basic position of the Sonics.”
“Do you believe in God?
Beller asked flat out.”
I leaned forward, fascinated.
“I have been reading a lot, lately,about things that are
non-spatiotemporal – yet believed to exist.”
But this I knew he meant mathematical objects in the Hylean Theoric
World.
Doesn’t that go against the Sconic Discipline?” Beller asked.
“yes” Arisbalt
said. “ but that is perfectly alright,
as long as one isin’t going about it in a naive way as if Lady Baritoe had
never written a word. A common complaint
made about the Sonics is that they don’t know much about pure theorics. Many theoricians, looking at Baritoes’s works
say wait a minute, there is something missing here – we can relate directly to
non-spatiotemporal objects when we prove theorems and so on, ‘The stuff I’ve
been reading lately is all about that.”
“So you can see God by doing theorics?”
“Not God,” Arisbalt said, “not a God that any ark would
recognize.”
My Comment: once again, in story, Stephenson makes my
argument. God is a metaphor. It is a word symbol. Take that away, and the disciplines can hold
hands. In fact in the rest of the book
Arisbalt and Beller get along.
This notion that religion is the cause of angst between men
is no less valid than theoric science can cause angst among men. But to a different point, mine, The
fundamental difference I read in Stephenson’s story is religion institutes free
will and theorics does not. To correct
Stephenson’s position I would suggest that only Christ’s teachings preach free
will. The church, temples, and mosques
do not.
Page 388: In spite of
all my prejudices against extramurous culture, I kept being surprised by
moments of beauty in these songs.
Page 394 “you think
these people are like us. That they will be sympathetic to our point of view as
followers of Our Mother Hylaea,” He said, trying these phrases on me for size.
Page 397: We always
opened our meals by invoking the memory of Saunt Cartus. The gist of it was that our minds might be
nourished by all matter of ideas originating from thinkers dataing all the way
back to Cnous, but for the physical nourishment our bodies relied upon one
another, joined in the Discipline that we owed to Cartas..
My comment: This says
a lot towards the ever expanded now as well ast the interconnectedness we all
have with one another.
Page 397: The four
monks seemed to enjoy this very much, and when we’d finished they stood up and
did an equally ancient sounding prayer.
It must have dated back to the early centuries of their monastic age,
just after the Fall of Baz, because their Old Orth was indistinguishable from
ours, and it had obviously been composed in a time before the music of the
maths and the monasteries had diverged.
If you didn’t listen too carefully, you could easily mistake this piece
for one of ours.
Page 401: “Okay”, now
some of the traps are suspended from strings.
The worms can’t reach them or feel their vibrations,”
Too bad for the worms! Beller said.
“The flies can’t see anything at night.”
“Poor flies.”
“Some parts of the cavern are so noisy that the bats can’t
hear a thing.”
“Well it sounds as though the flies, the bats, and the worms
had better learn to communicate with one another.” Beller said.
How? This was the
sound of Arisbalt’s trap closing on his leg.
“Uh, by communicating I guess.”
Oh. And what exactly
does the worm say to the bat?”
What does this have to do with the Cousins” Beller asked.
“It has everything to do with them!”
“you think that the Cousins are hybrid fly-bat-worm
creatures?”
“No”, Arisbalt said “I think we are.”
“AAARRRGH” Beller cried, to laughter from everyone.
Page 404: “Or brains
are flies, bats, and worms that clumped together for mutual advantage. These parts of our brains are talking to each
other all the time. Translating what
they perceive, moment to moment, into the shared language geometry. That’s what a brain is. That’s’ what it is to become conscious.
Page 408: [metephore] a requiem for the stars that were
being swallowed up in the dawn
Page 408: When you spend three houts singing the same note,
something happens to your brain. And
that goes double when you have fallen into an oscillatory lockstep with others
around you.
And if I were a craggy old Thousander – not a
nintteen-year-old Teener – I might just have the confidence to assert that when
your brain is in that state it can think things it could never think otherwise.
:Pag3 413: “This
cosmos, or causal domain represents a flow of information.” Cause-and-effect relationship, was my guess
recalling Orolo’s talk of Domain Shear.”
“Those two mean the same thing.”
Page 415: always moving in the same direction, as oil moves
through a wick
Page 432: The night before, at the Basian monestary, I head
accommodated certain new, odd facts in my mind just by sleeping. A similar trick might work for me now: by doing something completely different for a
few days, I might chance upon a better understanding than I could get by
kneeling in a cell and concentrating on it, or having a wordy discussion in a
chalk hall.
Page 437: Now that
had changes, and instead of thinking of myself as a member of the Provener
team, or of the Decenarian math, or the Edharian order, I felt like a citizen
of the world and was proud to be doing my little bit to protect it. I was comfortable with being a feral.
Page 440: [metaphor]I
was like an ape in a tree, looking at whatever moved fastest in my environment.
Page 458: So I looked
with fascination at those people in their mobes, and tried to fathom what it
would be like. Thousands of years ago,
the work that people did had been broken down into jobs that were the same
every day, in organization where people
were interchangeable parts. All
of the story had been bled out of their lives.
That was how it had to be; it was how you got a productive economy. But it would be easy to see a will at work
behind this; not exactly an evil will,
but a selfish will.
My comment: Just stop a minute and think about this
one. Our 21st century is not
that far away from this accusation on
society. Where is the selfishness? Stephenson makes it sound bleak. But is it?
Or is this simply an order, a divine order promulgated by the
individuals marching in their places.
Page 480: “yes sort of a prophet, according to them who
found a proof of the existence of God and was Thrown Back because of it.”
“That’s funny because if anyone actually did prove the
existence of God we’d just tell him ‘Nice proof’, Fraa Bly’ and start believing
in God, I said.
My comment: So here Stephenson throws out the challenge. If Religion threw out a proof that God
existed, what would Since do. Refute it
outright? Or counter it?
Page 514: In any
soul, the Condemned Man argued, was the ability to create a whole world, as big
and variegated as the one that he and the Magistrate lived in. But if this was true of the Innocent, it was
true of the Condemned Man as well, and so he should not – no one should ever –
be put to death.
Page 515: If that-if
our-world seemed, on balance, like a decent place to him, he would let the
Condemned Man live and our world would go on existing in his mind. If the world as a whole, only reflected the
Condemned Man’s depravity, The Magistrate would have him executed and our world
would cease to exist. We could help keep
the Condemned Man alive and thus preserve the existence of ourselves and our
world by striving at all times to make it a better place.
Page 516: Second, the
Inspiration that had passed from the Innocent to the Condemned Man at the
moment of her death was viral. It passed
from him into each of us. Each of us had
rte same power to create whole worlds.
The hope was that one day there would be a Chosen One who would create a
world that was perfect. If that ever
happened, not only he and his world but all of the other worlds and their
creators, back to the Condemned Man, would be saved recursively.
My comment: The religion comments move into the true
meaning of our oneness that
transcends from man to man, over many
generations. There is no time in the
solution.
Page 540: Even as I
was saying this, an old rattletrap coach was pulling off the road. At its controls was Magister Sark. It was one of those freakish coincidences
that made some people believe in spirits and Psychic phenomena. I explained it away by supposing that my
unconscious mind had seen the coach out of the corner of my eye a few moments
before I’d consciously recognized him.
My comment: Right
Page 541: Wast there
really that much of a difference between the Lelex notion of having one’s story
related to the Magistrate, and the Valor’s concept of emergence? The seemed to produce very similar behavior;
I owed my life to the fact that Sark and Osa and
been of one mind.
My comment: the beginning of Stephenson’s suggestion that
while different maths, or any other point of reliogo-phylso point of reference
on this planet, in the cosmos of alter worlds we are all one energy.
Page 544: {mete[hor]
like warer that wants to find the ocean
Page 558: the looked
like jery on the hoof
Page 558: {metaphor]
made it glow like flesh in candlelight.
Page 563: “ We’re
speaking, remember, of Aboutness. You
and I can think about things. Symbols in
our brains have meaning. The questions
is, can a syntactic device think about things, or merely process digits that
have no Aboutness – no meaning=.”
Page 564: Reconstitution,
Fann was the FAE of Syntactic Faculty – followers of Proc. She took the view that Aboutness duidn’t
exist – was an illusion that any sufficiently advanced stndev creates for
itself. By this time Evenedric was
already dead but he like Halikaarn before him had taken the view that our minds
could do things the syndevs couldn’t – that Aboutness was real-“
That our thoughts really did have semantic content over and
above the ones and the zeros.”
Page 564: “If it
lacks Aboutness, it is incredibly vulnerable, so yes” Sammann said.
“But systems with true Aboutness, or so
the myth goes, should be much more difficult to deceive.”
Page 577: The ancient
Prithenans suspected, but didn’t know how to prove, that the tiles of the
Teglon would have been easy – it would have been automatic – with square or
triangular tiles, or any tiles system that was periodic. With aperiodic tiles, it was impossible, or
at least very unlikely, umless you had some Godlike ability to see the whole
pattern in your head at once.
Metekoranes had believed that the final pattern existed in the Hylaean
Theoric World, and that Teglon could only be solved by one who had developed
the power of seeing into it.
My comment: Jad is the one which enables him to die on
the way to the spaceship and at the same time be on the spaceship in the
end. But this is my unfounded theory at
this point.
Page 579: Ah, but
that’s no what the fly-bat-worm says.” Said Orolo. “it says that only pure thought alone doesn’t
enable us to draw any conclusions one way or another about things that are
non-spatiotemporal – such as God.
the same observations that the Sonics made about themselves
must also be true of alien;s brains. No matter how different they might be from
us in other respects, they must integrate sensory givens into a coherent model
of what is around them – a model must be hung on a spatiotemoral frame. And that in a nutshell, is how they come to
share our ideas about geometry.
My comment: I interpret this to mean that internal
thought, not connected to those around you – the universe is not the path to
God. That path is the inevitable
collision course of the energy that carries thought.
Page 580:
[metephor] kicking away all the
ankle-biters sent after him
Page 580:
{metaphor] you fear that I am
navel gazing
Page 592
[metaphor] I am tormented, or tantalized,
by the sense that I’m almost in view of something that is at the limit of my
comprehension. I dream of being in the
sea, treading water, trying to see a beacon on shore. But the view is blocked by the crests of the
waves. Sometimes, when conditions are
perfect, I can pop up high enough to glimpse it. But then, before I can form any form
impression of what it is I’m seeing, I sink back down of own weight, and get
slapped in the face by another wave.
Page 594: I agree
that thinking often feels that way, “Isaid.
“You have a jumble of vague notions in your mind. Suddenly, bang! It all collapses into one clear answer that
you know is right. But every time
something suddenly, you can’t simply chalk it up to quantum effects.”
My comment: Here you see that Stephenson, does not yet
draw any conclusion on the argument of rationale thought and intuition.. But once again he provides a glimpse that
perhaps dejavous events can be explained away by glimpses of the answer that
finally presents itself.
Page 597: “Yes, Now,
in the polycosmic interpretation of how quantum theories works, what does all
of this look like?”
“There is no longer superposition. No wave function collapse. Just a lot of different copies of me – of my
brain- each really existing in a different parallel cosmos. The Cosmos model residing in each of those
brains is really, definitely in one state or another. And they interface with one another.”
“You don’t even need a model any more”
“It’s so much simpler this way”
“My brain doesn’t have to support this hugely detailed, accurate,
configurable, quantum-superposition-supporting model of the cosmos any
more! All it needs to do is to perceive
– to reflect- the cosmos that it’s really in, as it really is.
“The variations – the myriad possible alternative scenarios
– have been moved out of your brain,” Orolo said, rapping on his skull with his
knuckles, “and out into the polycosim,
which is where they all exist anyway! He
opened his hand and extended it to the sky, As if releasing a bird. “All you have to do is perceive them.”
My comment: YEAS!!!
Knowing is only a matter of perceiving what already is.. Awaken to it through meditation ….and then
learning a synonymous word for perceiving.
Page 625: And it
happened all the time that the compromise between two perfectly rational
alternatives was something that made no sense at all.
My comment: I believe if I proposed this to a
mathematician, he would look at me as thought I had a third eye. Yet in reality this phenomena seems to be
common place. Why is that? …Perspective
and the processing of the same observation.
But then When I get to the end of the book the author writes two
alternative events at the same time. In
the story line Jad survives to meet with Erasmus in front of the alien
leaders. But in the re-cap at the end
Jad dies en-route to the alien ship.
Page 637: “Electronic
behavior is basically synonymous with chemistry, “ Jesery put in. “That’s why newmatter was invented: because monkeying around with nucleosymthisis
gave new elements and new chemistry to play around with.”
Page 638: “And the
functioning of living organisms is founded on chemistry.”
Page 664: The givens
that you and I are taking in all the time, simply by virtue of being conscious,
and that we can observe and think about on our own, without any need for
scientific instrument.”
Fraa Lodoghir blinked in fake amazement. “Do you mean to
claim the the subject of your dialogue was consciousness?
Page 666: “As to your
first point.: I continued, “namely that we still don’t understand ourselves
after six thousand years of introspection, I believe that Orolo was of the view
that we might be able to settle some of those ancient questions now that we
have access to conscious beings from other star systems.”
Page 682: I shall
play my role, and say this: we have nothing in common with the Geometers. No shared experiences, no common culture.
Until that changes, we can’t communicate with them. Why not?
Because language is nothing more that a stream of symbols that are
perfectly meaningless until we associate them, in our minds, with meaning: a
process acculturation.”
Page 683: the
philosophy of Saunt Proc: put simply, that language, communication, indeed
thought itself, are the manipulation of symbols to which meanings are assigned
by culture- and only culture.
“Plurality of Worlds means a plurality of world cultures – cultures
hermetically sealed off from one another until now – hence, for the time being,
unable to communicate.”
My comment: I believe he is speaking of the role of an
archaeologist. Therefore it is possible
and perhaps in this futuristic setting it is possible in a matter of
seconds. But the real deal in this excerpt
is his definition of meaning.
Acculturation in the dictionary means assimilation of cultures. So does the author suggest that there is no
meaning to anything until two disparate bodies agree on the same observation?
Back to the archeologist; he looks at symbols along side many artifacts and constructs
an interpretation of the symbols.
Interpretation is thus meaning.
Yet there is no one from the past to agree with the archeologist. Does the fact that we a different people in a
different time and culture find meaning?
And then is it possible that we are in conflict with the people of the
past. And then suppose we could time
travel and meet up with this civilization would we clash? Would there be Acculturation, only when the
dominant civilization forces assimilation of the weaker civilization. Is that how meaning is constructed? If you read Dr. Jarad Dimond’ book Guns Germs
and Steel you would agree.
Page 683: “ The
purpose of this messal, accordingly, is to develop and, I would hope, implement
a strategy for Saeular Power, assisted by the avout, to break down the
plurality – which is the same thing as developing a shared language. We shall put ourselves out of business by
making the Plurality of Worlds into One World.
My comment: And then if religion (Secular Power) cannot agree on a common language for fear of
‘going out of business’ how can we meat John Lennon’s Imagination of living all
as one. This is the essence of my book,
Love is a Blooming Rose.
Page 687: Except for
Jad. “The words fail. There is one universe, by the definition of
universe. It is not the cosmos we see
through our eyes and our telescopes – that is but a single Narrative, a thread
winding through Hemm space shared by many other Narratives besides ours. Each Narrative looks like a cosmos alone, to
any consciousness that partakes of it.
The Geometers came from other Narratives – until they came here and
joined ours.”
Page 688: And te vast
stok of knowledge that she, as a Lorite, carried around in her head made he
good at explaining things; she could always reach back to a useful analogy or
clear line of argument that some fraaa or surr had written down in a distant
past.
Page 689: “ The point
I was getting at wa that you can string the lergitimate points – ones visited
by our world track, but that makes sense – inot other world tracks that make as
much sense as ours,” “But they’re not
real, Emman said. Or are they?”
I balked.
Arisbalt said, “ That is rather a profound question of
metatheorics. All of te points in Hemm
space are equally real – since they are nothing more than lists of
numbers. So what is it that imbues on
set of those points – one worldtrack – with one that we call realness?”
Page 690: “Use of
Narrative is somewhat – well – loaded.”…”what do they mean by it” …”and is it
associated by lineage, in some peoples minds, with Lineage.”…what is the link
you see between the f of different kinds of matter, and the worldtracks?
Page 703: “are you
saying that there would be one-to –one correspondence between our Saunts an theirs?
Like the same mind shared across multiple worlds?
Page 704: “How might
the knowlwdge propagate from a common Theoric World – I won’t call it Haylean,
since presumably there was no person named Hylaea on Quator – to minds of
different Saunts in different worlds?
And is this still going on at this moment – between us, and them?”
Page 705: The
configuration of the cosmos encoded in that point, I said, “includes – along
with all the stars and planets, the birds and te bees, the books and speelies
and everything else – one star that happens to have a big chunck of ice in the
middle of it. That point, remember, is
just a long string of numbers – coordinates in space. No more or less real than any other possible
string of numbers.”
“its realness – or unrealness in this case – has to grow out
of some other consideration.”
Page 706: See, It’s
not just about what is possible- since anything is possiblein Hemn space- but
what is copossible, meaning all other things that would have to be true in that
universe, to have a block of ice in a star.”
Page 707: “but it’s a
way of answering the question ‘what other things would have to be true about a
cosmos that included a block of ice in a star?
So those numbers and recordings, you’re saying, are
themselves parts of the configuration encode by that point in Hemn Space
“yes. When you go all
praxic on me and dream up the ice missile delivery system, what you’re really
doing is figuring out what Narratives would create the set of conditions – the
traces left behind in the cpsmos by the execution of that project – that is
compossible with ice in a star.”
Page 708: That’s what
a world track is – a sequence of Hemn space points strubg together just so, to
make it look like the laws of nature are preserved.”
My comment: The key and operative words in this statement
are ‘look look’; in other words perspective.
The narrative construct of realness.
One could through layers upon layers of recursive thought, or close your
eyes and simply accept what is. If you
did one over the other, would the meaning be the same?
Page 718: there is a
Hylaen Theoric World, that is populated by mathematical entities – coons, as we
call them – that are non spatial and non temporal in nature, and that our minds
have some capacity off accessing them.
The discussion so that it can’t be touched by rational. I can’t prove you’re wrong any more than I
can prove the non-existence of God!
Page 720: Over the
speaker, Paphlagon was saying: “the Adrakhonic Theorem is true here. It’s apparently true in the four cosmic the
Geometers came from. If their ship had
turned up in some other cosmos, the same as ours, but devoid of sentient
beings, would it be true there?
“Not until the Geometers arrived to say it was true,” said
Lodohir
…”the more I hear of this, the less I understand your
position, Praa Lodighir. Three is a
prime number. It is prime today, was prime yesterday. A billion years ago, before there were brains
to think about it, it was prime. And if
all the brains were destroyed tomorrow, it would still be prime. Clearly its primeness has nothing to do with
our brains.”
“It has everything to do with our brains, Lodoghir insisted,
“because we supply the definition of what it is to be a prime number!
“No theor who attends to these matters can long escape the
conclusion that the coons exict independently of what may or may not be going
on in peoples’ brains at any given moment”’ Paphlagon said. “It is as simple application of te
Steelyard. What is the simplest way of
explaining the fact that theors working independently in different eras prove
the same results – results that do not contradict each other, even though
reached by different proof- chains-results, same of which can be turned into
theories that perfectly describe the behavior of physical universe? The simplest answer is that coons really
exist, and are not of this causal domain.”
Page 721: “A fully
generalized Directed Acyclic Graph, with no distinction made any more between,
on the one hand, so called theoric worlds, and, on the other hand, inhabited
ones such as Arbre, Quator, and the rest.
For the first time, we have arrows leading away from Arbran Causal
Domain towards other inhabited worlds.”
“Do you mean to suggest,” Lodghir asked, as though not quite
believing his ears, “that Arbre might be the Hylaen Theoric World of some other
world that has people living on it?”
Page 733: “Turns out
that once you get an organization started, it takes on a life- lives by a logic
– of its own
Page 746: ”This
percolation you speak of: until now, I
fancied it was all thoers seeing timeless truths about isosceles triangles,
“ Lodoghir said. “ I oughtn’t to be the ever-exca;ating grandiosity
of these claims, but aren’t you now asking us to believe something even more
colossal? Correct me if I’m wrong: but
did you just try to link percolation of information through the Wick to
biological evolution?”
An akward pause.
“You believe in evolution, don’t you?” Lodoghir continued.
“yes, though it might have sounded strange to someone like
Protas, who had frankly mystical pagan views about HTW and so on,” said
Paphlagon, “but any modern version or Protism must be reconcilable with
long-established theories, not only of cosmpgraphy, but of evolution. However I disagree with the polemical part of
your statement Fraaa Lodoghir.
I am only claiming what is reasonable. That – as yourself pointed out during your
Plenary with Fraa Erasmas – tends to be the smallest, in the sense of least
complicated, claim. What I claim is that
information moves through the Wick in a manner that is somehow analogous to how
it moves from past to present. As it
moves, one of the things that it does is to excite physicall measurable changes
in nerve tissue…
Page 748: “We agree
on something!” said Lodoghir.
“ A much more economical claim, in Gardan’s Steelyard sense,
is that the mechanism – whatever it is- acts on any matter whether or not that
matter is part of a living organism – or a theor! It’s just that there is an observational bias
at work.”
“Yes, Papllagon said, “and just as cosmographers can only
see stars in a dark sky, we can only observe the Hylean Flow when it manifests
itself as perceptions of coons in our conscious minds. Like starlight at moon, it is always present,
always working, but only noticed and identified as something remarkable in the
context of pure theorics.”
Page 750 [metaphor] like seaweed killing a swimmer
Page 751: …we are
going to have to toil in the laboratory of consciousness, which is the only
setting we know of where effects of the Hylean Flow are observable.”…:Though
instead of one single HTW we should now speak of the Wick instead: the Flow
percolates through a complex network of cosmic ‘more theoric than’ or ‘prior
to’ ours.”
Page 752 And that was
how I came to spend the entire course recounting my two Ecba dialogs with
Orolo: the first about how, according to
him, consciousness was all about the rapid and fluent creation of
counterfactual worlds inside the brain, and second in which he argued that this
was not merely possible, not merely plausible, but in fact easy, if one thought
of consciousness as spanning an ensemble of slightly different versions of the
brain, each keeping track of a slightly different cosmos. Paphlagon ended up saying it better: “ If Hems Space is the landscape, and one
cosmos is a single geometric point in it, then a given consciousness is a spot of light moving, like a search-beam,
over that landscape- and brightly illuminating a set of points – of cosmic-
that are close together, with a penumbra that rapidly feathers away to darkness
at the edges. In the bright center of te
beam, crosstalk occurs among many variants of the brain. Fewer contributions come in from the half-lit
periphery, and none from the shadows beyond.
Page 755: “I should
tell you first that he wa knowledgeable about theorics. He knew the laws of theorics were
time-reversible, and that the only way to determine the direction of time’s
arrow was to measure the amount of disorder in the system. The cosmos seems oblivious to time. It only matters to us. Consciousness is time constituting. We build up time out of instantaneous
impressions that flow in through our sensory organs at each moment. Then they recede into the past. What is this thing we call the past? It is a system of records encoded in our
nerve tissue – records that tell a consistent story.”
Page 756: “ I
understand Atamant’s point, Lodoghir said, “ but making such a move does he not
exile himself from rational theoric discourse?
This power of consciousness takes on a sort of mystical status – it
can’t be challenged or examined, it just
is.
But the nub of it is this:
Consciousness is enacted in the physical world, on physical equipment-“
“Equipment? Igentha
Floral asked sharply.
“Nerve tissue, or perhaps some artificial device of similar
powers. The point being that it has what
Ita would call hardware … The full cosmos of the physical stuff and
consciousness. Take away consciousness
and it’s only dust; add consciousness and you get things, ideas, and time.
Page 757: Lodoghir
said’ “ Please explain something to me.
I was under the impression that the kind of crosstalk you are speaking
of could only occur between two cosmic that were exactly the same for a
difference in the quantum state of one particle.”
Page 758: Fraa Jad
threw his napkin on the table and said:
“ Consciousness amplifies the weak signals that, like cobwebs spun
between tree, web Narratives together.
Moreover, it amplifies them selectively and in that way creates feedback
loops that steer the Narratives.”
…If you don’t agree with the polycosmic interpretation, you
must find some other explanation for those effects. But if you agree with it, then, to make it compatible
with what we have long known about quantum mechanics, you must buy into the
premise that cosmic interfere with each other when their world tracks are close
together. If you restrict yourself to
one particular cosmos, this cross talk may be interpreted as a signal – a
rather weak one, since it only concerns a few particles. If those particles are in an asteroid out in
the middle of nowhere, it hardly matters. But when those particles happen to be
at a certain critical locations, in the brain, why, then, the signals can end
up altering the behavior of the organism that is animated by that brain. The organism, all by itself, is vastly larger
than anything that could normally be influenced by quantum interference. When on considers societies of such organisms
that endure across long spans of time and in some cases develop world-altering
technologies, one sees the meaning of Fraa Jad’s assertion that consciousness
amplifies the weak signals that web the cosmic together
Consciousness is spatiotemporial in nature
Page 760: They [our
brains] are not merely crystal radios!
They compute. The cognate. The
outcomes of those cognitions can my no means be easily predicted from their
inputs. And those outcomes are the conscious
thoughts that we have, the decisions we put in to effect, our social
interactions with other conscious beings, and behavior of societies down
through the ages.”
Page 761: “But recall
that the signals in question only pass between cosmic whose world tracks are
close together. There is your feedback! Crosstalk steers world tracks of
consciousness bearing cosmic; world tracks that steer close together exchange
more crosstalk.”
Page 791: The loaf
had been made by braiding several ropes of dough together in a non-trivial
pattern that, I feared, had a deep knot-theoretical significance and was named
after some Elkhazgain Saunt.
Page 794: Plurality
of Worls Messal about the Wick and the idea that Arbre might be the HTW of
other worlds, such as Urnud. … “you’re
saying that’s like what it might have been like to the Urndon theors on that
ship,” I said, when the received – I don’t know- emanations, hints, signals,
percolating down the Wick from Arbre.”
Page 807: philosophical musings with which I’d whiles away
the time: that Orolo’s death, and Lise’s, had prepared me to accept my
own. That it was good I’d sent that
message to Ala. That even if I died in this cosmos I might go
on living in another.
Page 830: [metaphor]
My brain had become like an old sponge that has sopped up more water than it
can hold.
Page 831: [metaphor]
But now all I could see was the back side of a crinkley blanket, as if I were
poultry in a roasting pan.
Page 851: We’ve
become like Fraa Orolo’s wondering 10,000-year math,” Arisbalt proclaimed. “A causal domain cut off from the rest of the
cosmos.”
“Whew”
“But there was a side effect that Orolo never warned us of,”
he continued, “ which is that we have gone adrift. We don’t exist in one state or another. Anything.’s possible, any history might have
happened, until the gates swing open and we go Apert.”
Page 861: Fraa Osa
was answering: “To my fraas and surrs
of t Ringing Vale I have a loyalty that can never be dissolved precisely
because it is no rational thing but a bond like that of family. And I will not waste oxygen by discussing all
of the nesting and overlapping loyalty groups to which I belong: this cell, the
Mathic World, the COnvox, the people of Arbre, and the community, extending
even beyond the limits of this cosmos, that unites us with the likes of Jules
Verne Durand.”
Page 862: “ This is
dangerous, Jesry said flatly. “It leads
to saying that we may abandon the Rake and behave like a bunch of Enthusiasts,
and everything will work out just fine because we have achieved holistic
oneness with the polycosim.”
Page 863: Not even
Jad. He did say this: “Those who think through possibleoutcomes
with discipline, forge connections, in doing so, to other cosmic in which those
outcomes are more than mere possibilities.
Such a consciousness is measurably, quantitivly different from one that
has not undertaken the same work and yes, is able to make correct decisions in
an Emergence where an untrained mind would be of little use”
“I think it has already gotten somewhere, I said. “ When you and I re-joined this dialog a few
minutes ago, passions were inflamed and people were still trying to frame the
decision in terms of allegiances and loyalties.
Fraa Osa has shown that any such approach will fail because we all belong
to multiple groups with conflicting loyalties.
This made the conversation less emotional. We’ve also developed an argument that it’s
not possible to work out all the moves in advance. But as you yourself pointed out, going on
naive emotion is bound to fail.
Page 896: “ I suppose not. But it is easy, after all this time, to
harbor doubts. To think of it as a
religion whose god has died.”
Believe then, that information – the Hylean Flow – passes
between cosmic.
Page: 908: “This happened after you left Arbre. One magisterium is the Saecular Power. The other is the Mathic World – now the
Antiswarm. The two of them are well -
running the world?”
Page 927: The Hylean
Flow brings about convergent development of consciousness-bearing systems across
world tracks!”
Page 949: “he mystic
nails a symbol to one meaning that was true for the moment but soon becomes
false. The poet, on the other hand, sees
that truth while it’s true but understands that symbols are always in flux and
that their meanings are fleeting.”
Page 956: Orolo said
that the more he knew of the complexity of the mind, and the cosmos with which
it was inextrably and mysteriously bound up, the more inclined he was to see it
as a kind of miracle – not in quite the same sense that our Deolaters (common
folks with little discipline)use them, for he considered it altogether
natural. He meant rather that the
evolution of our minds from bits of inanimate matter was more beautiful and
more extraordinary than any of the the miracles catalogs down through the ages
by religions of the world. And so he had
an instinctive skepticism of any system of thought, religious or theorical,
that pretended to encompass that miracle, and in doing sought to draw limits
around it. Thai’s why he’d chosen the path
that he had. Now the coming of our
friends from Urnud, Tro, Earth, and Fthos has demonstrated certain things about
how polycosim works that who had only speculated about before. We must all of us re-examine everything we
know and believe in the light of these revelations. That is the work hat begins here now it is a
great and gradual beginning that encompasses smaller but no less beautiful
beginnings – such as the Union of Ala and Erasnus.